I think if this formula for the mascara is totally different then it could possibly be a winner. It especially helps that they changed the brush too, which I heard was a big problem.
And same here Sal, any liner that can stay on my waterline is a winner...especially if its a nice, true, inky black.
I can get where you're coming from too, Ava. Stuff like eyecon and uhm...damn, that lyin eyes concealer? And a bunch of other stuff, have turned out to be duds. But thier You Clean Up Nice! face wash and lip glosses are winners. Which of their products have you tried that didn't live up to expectations?